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Pre Tribulation, Mid or Post Tribulation Rapture

Posted by Witness @ 05 October, 2006 01:36

As Christians, we live in exciting times as we watch biblical prophecy unfold before our eyes.


And so, we hear more and more about the rapture. Some place it at the end of the Tribulation, making it one and the same event as the Second Coming. Others place it in the middle of the Tribulation. Still others believe that it will occur at the beginning of the Tribulation.

God felt it was so important for us to be alert and watchful for his coming that he reminded us several times to be ready.

Matthew 24:42 "Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming."

Matthew 24:44 "For the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think He will.

Matthew 24:36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone."

Matthew 25:13 "Be on the alert then, for you do not know the day nor the hour."

"Behold, I show you a mystery; we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality." 1 Corinthians 15:51-53 (KJV)

The last trump is a term used for the last trumpet blown during the Feast of Trumpets. The rapture will be the fulfillment of the Jewish Feast of Trumpets:

"For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." Wherefore comfort one another with these words." 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 (KJV)

Knowledge of what lies ahead motivates people to prepare. Prophecy was intended to provide the kind of motivation needed to turn Sunday morning Christians who live at relative ease into Christian soldiers.

If Jesus is coming soon as the signs seem to indicate, then one's views on the timing of the rapture are crucial to being prepared to be an over comer in the difficult days before His coming.

Matthew 24:9-13 (New International Version)

9"Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.

REVELATION 6:

9When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. 10They called out in a loud voice, "How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?" 11Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and brothers who were to be killed as they had been was completed.

Revelation 20:4

4I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Tribulation preparation has to do with more than storing food and gasoline, and providing a piece of land for sustenance. It has also to do with, and in fact begins with, spiritual conditioning.

To become spiritually prepared, you must reconcile yourself that God is in control. No matter what you do, think or say is of no consequence to God.

Regardless of when the Rapture actually occurs, you don't want to be caught by surprise without spiritual conditioning because the battle to accept or reject the "mark of the beast" will occur.

Once the mark is out in force, the masses will be forced to take sides immediately. They will either give themselves to the Kingdom of God by refusing to buy/sell using the system, or they will continue operating in the marketplace by receiving the mark.

How will you react to the idea that you may soon face the Antichrist, and all the venom that hell can dish out on God's children? Will you be able to stand firm?

Above and beyond the strengthening of our faith through our current experiences, spiritual preparation will be necessary for things we have not yet experienced, such as severe starvation, repeated cold nights, great despair, imminent death, murder, mass murder, etc.

It is not important whether you are a pre-tribe or mid-tribe or post-tribe ideology but that you are first and foremost born again and have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and we stress personal.

It is not about going to church on Sunday, it’s not about do’s and dont's and it's not about trying to keep the 10 commandments, because we can’t.

What it is about, is what Jesus talked about when he gave the parable about the 5 virgins with the 5 lamp stands and that you are to be ready in season and out of season for the master of the house to return.

So in closing we would like to say that the term Rapture and the Theology isn't even in the Bible, it was invented by a person in the 1800's, so it suffices to say that there is really no such thing, infract part of the great Deception would be to let everyone think that the Christians of this generation are somehow better than the ones that all suffered persecution and death before us and some how we are not going to have to go through any kind of tribulation.. Well that is not biblical, but what if Satan and the Church could convince you would not have to suffer any of the trib and then cone to find out the scripture was right and we have to go through part of or all of it , then what do you think most Christians would do? .. Ah Yes they would turn away like Matthew 24:10 here states 10At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.

AND THEN THERE IS THIS PASSAGE THAT PROVES THERE IS NO RAPTURE FOR SURE

REVELATION 6:

9When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. 10They called out in a loud voice, "How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?" 11Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and brothers who were to be killed as they had been was completed.
"The 'last trump' refers to the Feast of Trumpets and the Jewish practice of blowing trumpets at this feast each year. During the ceremony, there is a series of short trumpet blasts of various lengths, concluding with the longest blast of all, called the tekiah gedolah: the great, or 'last trump.'

So we are to suffer for his name sake as Paul so plainly put it and we are to endure Testing , Trials and Tribulation, What would ever make anyone think we are better than the Christians that went before us, and also God does not want wimps he wants people who are willing to endure even un to death for him.. This is all part of being a true Christian and a true follower of Jesus Christ....

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Something very important has happened today and the News Media has completely missed it.

Posted by Witness @ 04 October, 2006 10:19
 Something very important has happened today and the News Media has completely missed it.

 

They are focused on President Hugo Chavez.denouncing Bush as "the devil" yesterday at the United Nations, and Chavez name calling today, calling Bush "an ex-alcoholic" and "a sick man, full of complexes" who is unqualified for the job.


Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad addressing the General Assembly several hours after Bush.


That he accused the United States of rigging the UN to advance its own military and economic dominance and to oppress its weaker adversaries.


In his second address today, Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad attacked US policies throughout the Middle East. And of course, the ills of this world are all the fault of the U.S. and Israel.


Somehow, they missed the most important statement made by Ahmadinejad at the end of his speech.


"I emphatically declare that today's world, more than ever before, longs for just and righteous people with love for all humanity, and above all, longs for the perfect, righteous human being and the real savior who has been promised to all peoples and who will establish justice, peace, and brotherhood on the planet. all Almighty God, all men and women are your creatures, and you have ordained their guidance and salvation. Bestow upon humanity that thirst for justice, the perfect human being promised to all by you, and make us among his followers, among those who strive for his return and his cause."

Not one inference has been made to this very important statement. Didn’t the news media hear what was said, or did they just not understand the significance of this statement?


How wonderful it would be if a President Bush or any Christian leader stood before the UN and professed his belief in the soon Return of Christ!


Would the media have ignored that as well, or would their have been an uproar?


Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is calling for the return of the Islamic messianic 'madhi'. The Islamic messianic 'madhi'of the 12th imam, will prompt a global battle between good and evil.


The Mahdi is believed to be a future Muslim world leader who will not only rule over the Islamic world, but also the non-Muslim world as well. The Mahdi is said to lead a world revolution that will establish a new Islamic world order throughout the entire earth:


Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour (1 John 2:18).


 

The O'rilley Factor

Posted by Witness @ 04 October, 2006 09:04

What is wrong with this statement "I am a Roman Catholic" O' O'reilly stated. Tell us what is wrong with that statement? Also he said to the Non Catholic Pastor being sued that , he had no right to bring the person before the church, and embarrass her. But here is what God has to say on that subject contained in Matthew 18

A Brother Who Sins Against You

15"If your brother sins against you,[ go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. 16But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.'[ 17If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

18"I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be[bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[ loosed in heaven.

19"Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven. 20For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them."

2 Timothy 4

1In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge: 2Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourageâ€ with great patience and careful instruction. 3For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. 5But you, keep your head in all situations, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, discharge all the duties of your ministry.

1 Timothy 2

Instructions on Worship

1I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyoneâ€  2for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6who gave himself as a ransom for all menâ€ the testimony given in its proper time. 7And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostleâ€ I am telling the truth, I am not lyingâ€ and a teacher of the true faith to the Gentiles.

5For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6who gave himself as a ransom for all menâ€ the testimony given in its proper time.

So if we take this passage from 1st Timothy and look at it carefully we see that Jesus, is the Only One who we have to go to, so that he Jesus take our requests to GOD, not a man or Preacher, or Teacher, Rabbi or even a Catholic Priest. Jesus himself said that if

So based on the teachings of Christ and his decibels , then who's right , the non denominational preacher is, not Mr. The Roman Catholic Bill O'reilly.

And the answer to the question above is the word ROMAN, who do you think crucified Jesus along with the Sanhedrin? Why it was the Universal Church that ushered in the only Political one World Universal Church, Know as the Raman Catholic Church and the

Christianity had been outlawed in the Roman Empire for its entire history. Then, in 313 C.E., a woman named Helena converted to Christianity. Helena just happened to be the mother of Roman Emperor Constantine, and she prevailed on him to legalize the religion. Constantine did her one better, not only legitimizing Christianity for the first time but exerting his political might to force the divergent Christian sects into an uneasy unity.

Constantine was motivated by a desire for political stability. He was not a Christian and wasn't baptized until he lay on his deathbed. Nevertheless, he was a force to be reckoned with.

Although he didn't directly shape the theological content of Christianity, Constantine convened the Council of Nicea in 325, bringing together the scattered bishops of Christian communities around the ancient world. Basically, he locked them in a room and told them not to come out until they had agreed on a definition for orthodox Christianity. The resulting "Nicene Creed" defines Roman Catholicism today. Everything else was designated as heresy and targeted for extermination.

Another Truth from our Lord Jesus Christ

From A Witness The Final Countdown You Decide.

19"Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven. 20For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them.", So how long have people been duped into believing that the Catholic Church had the inside tract to GOD, On the Contrary it is another false religion, and is full of false teaching and un-sound doctrine.Roman Emperor Constantine, and his mother were the architects...

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